Hero Honda Karizma ZMR Vs. Yamaha R15 – A Comprehensive Comparo

As the title says this comparo is between the Yamaha YZF R15 and the recently launched Hero Honda Karizma ZMR. We have seen many reviews and comparisons between ZMR and R15. In order to make this one special I have included my real time experience with both the bikes in a Product Marketing point of view. As we all know the YZF R15, 150cc Mini Sports Bike launched two years ago by Yamaha. While Karizma ZMR roars with a 225cc and is a recently launched variant of Karizma R which is the Flagship offering from Hero-Honda. Both these bikes are built for sheer performance but targeted on entirely different audience.

At first, a customer has to understand the concept and Audience who are targeted for a product, else you will end-up in a big disappointment. R15 is designed for a 20-25 year old who weighs between 60-70 kgs. If you probably fall into this segment the R15 is just for you. Remember you got to bend yourself and adjust with the lowered foot pegs in the R15, which is not possible for all ages. Whereas the ZMR is targeted on bikers over 25 years with Huge Built. Visually a ZMR will not fit a slim biker. So Decide which segment you fall in before choosing one.

Looks:

It’s obvious R15 is a clear winner in this segment hands down. Though looks purely depend on one’s personal preference, but the majority always rules. It’s ideal to say R15 is the 150cc version of R1 , there is no need explain much about the stunning design. Moreover the R15′s front cowl is designed Aero dynamically to provide Precise airflow control. The Sculpted tank which blend into the Front Cowl and Yamaha’s trade Mark Dual Lamps will make you fall in Love at first sight. But the rear disappoints a bit with skinny tyres and makes no big difference to a normal bike. Many say R15 is looks tiny, but its sleek design does the job perfectly. Also we have to admit the fact that R15 and FZ have paved way for a new generation of Bikes in India. It’s obvious that many bikes can been seen modified only with R15′s fairing.

Now coming to the ZMR, which slightly resembles Busa in styling and Proportions. The entire design shows an urgency and inspiration from other models. The Huge ZMR Stickers in the Front looks freaky which highlights the entire design. The Tank remains the same from ZMA R as its one of the best for Knee Rest. The Rear LED and Grab rails slightly resembles its sibling CBZ Xtreme. Like the R15 there is nothing interesting about the rear. Being more precise ZMR’s rear mudguard look exactly like a 125cc TVS Flame. ZMR shines in Five Colours. In my opinion White outshines the reset. While the other colours will just say you have a ZMR.

The digital speedo in ZMR is really a striking feature which is interactive with its owner, wishing Hi and Bye. While R15 borrows the speedo from its sibling R125.

R15: 4.5/5
ZMR: 3.5/5

Performance:

On Papers: The R15 is powered by a 149cc Liquid cooled imported mill, Which is capable of throwing 17PS at 8500rpm and 15nm torque at 7500rpm. Which is a mind blowing figure for a 150cc bike. Seems R15 has to do a lot of Hard-work to bring the results you need. The ZMR on the other hand powered by a relaxed 225cc mill which is directly taken from the proven ZMA R. ZMR can do a best of 17.6ps at 7000rpm and a Mighty 18.35NM torque at 6000rpm.

On Road: With a Suitable rider on both the Bikes a R15 will surely outperform the ZMR right from 0- 145 kph (On Speedo). Where its almost impossible to exceed 125Kph on ZMR’s Speedo. many reviews and articles say R15 lacks Low end Pickup. I certainly disagree with that. May it be the Pulsar, Apache or R15 It all depends on what RPM you keep the engine. In this case the R15′s rpm needle is the fastest to reach 10,500 rpm amongst all Indian bikes >250cc. Hence you have to keep the R15 is its power band to challenge others. To remind, R15 has a Engine Cut-off at 10,500rpm , which can be removed by remapped ECU which costs only about 5k/-. With Proper gear shifts, it takes about 11 secs to reach 0-100kph in the R15, where ZMR managess it at around 13 secs. We might think ZMR lags 2 Secs behind, But this absolutely makes no difference within city road conditions.

ZMR’s Power band is even throughout the entire RPM range, similar to Suzuki GS150. Also you get the adrenaline rush when you accelerate the engine initially, which is totally absent in the R15. On the other hand once you cross the 7000rpm mark in the R15 you must get ready for the real ride, First time when I crossed the same, I felt like someone is pushing from the back. The ultra refined engine will show no sign of vibrations even when cruising at 120kph, also the seating posture helps Wind Flow efficiently through your shoulders, This doubles your confidence. Where as in a ZMR the seating posture is straight and simple like its performance, cruising is smooth at around 100kph which is ideal for touring. From a Performance point of view the ZMR may disappoint you a bit.

R15: 4.5/5
ZMR: 3.5/5

Handling and Comfort:

Since both the bikes cost you over a lakh. It’s obvious that expectations would be quite a bit more than usual. Performance is not the only aspect to judge the winner. The next comparison is on how these bikes feel on road. The moment you sit on the R15. All the tiny bike feeling would be washed out. You need to bend and adjust yourself to reach the Handle and this gives a sporty feeling and you are ready to be mischievous. The ZMR is plain and simple. All you got to do is just sit and hold the Handle, no adjustments required. R15 is more or less a Track tool, Since the bike weighs a little over 120kgs, All cuts and curves can be handled with Ease. With the 159 kgs in ZMR you get more responsible and makes it almost impossible to handle deep curves without hitting the brakes. ZMR comes with the same legendary front brake from ZMA R and a Rear Disc too. R15′s disc brakes take biking to the next level. Eventually ZMR heavily lacks a Mono Suspension.

In short the R15 gives you accurate handling in city traffic. ZMR is rather contradictory, its huge mass makes it rock solid on highways and manage any amount of wind flow with ease. Certainly the ZMR has a hand over the R15 in touring comfort as you cannot bend yourself for hours and keep the throttle over 9000rpm. ZMR reveals its maximum capable torque at a early 6000rpm itself, So no need to stress yourself as well as the Engine. In Short the ZMR is the holy grail for Tourers and nothing handles like the R15 on a short city ride.

R15: 4.5/5 (City) and 3/5 (Touring)
ZMR: 4/5 (City) and 5/5 (Touring)

Mileage and Maintenance:

Both bikes ripped at their best will give an optimum mileage bet 30-35 kmph. Improper Clutch/Gear handling will reduce further more. Since the R15 has a tiny 150cc engine it has a hand over the ZMR in this segment. If the throttle is held below 5K rpm for commuting then it returns an average of 45kmph while ZMR returns 40kmpl in the same scenario. Apart from that many still have issues with the R15 not having a centre stand and only one Head light works at low Beam.

Regarding Quality, Both Hero-Honda and Yamaha have a good history and experienced over their business. Hence they won’t bother you much on a Maintenance point of view. For the first two years oil and Brake pads would be the only replacements made. Both justify their price tag with a Various array of options. No matter you select R15 or ZMR oil and Brake Pads will cost you the same 415/- and 1100/- respectively. In my opinion , both the bikes will surely perform healthy for over 5 yrs. Which would be a dream for every Pulsar and Apache owner. Still many are unaware that the Front Fairing Plastics of the R15 costs just about 3000rs, same as ZMR. So do we really need to worry about a crash guard? Unlike other bikes Yamaha has not terminated its job after selling the R15. There are additional performance accessories that can improve its performance, which can be outperformed only by the Ninja. But in my opinion that ZMR’s throttle is also controlled by an ECU. Why not Hero Honda launch performance accessories similar to R15?

R15: 4/5
ZMR: 4/5

Features:

ZMR over R15, Lets see the Features in which the ZMR rules over the R15. First the Speedo which is really a good initiative in making an interaction. ZMR boasts 18 inch wheels which gives a huge bike like feeling. ZMR has a relaxed 225cc engine which stays relaxed even at high RPMs.Also the bike comes with a closed chain cover which really helps to keep unwanted dust and particles settling on the chain. The R15′s open chain may look aggressive but it costs about 150/- extra for every time you use a chain spray. The LED lamps is an eye catching element in ZMR which really grabs every one’s attention. In my opinion there is no comparison to ZMA R’s dual tail light.

R15 over ZMR, Its a Fact that R15 is the most technologically advanced Indian bike. Which has a array of features over the ZMR. Firstly R15 is about 25 kgs less than the ZMR which makes an amazing power to weight ratio . Handling or rather Flicking the R15, in City Traffic is a Pleasure. R15 has six gears and better aero dynamics which makes it more efficient. The mono suspension is a gift to Track racers. Dual Head lamps gain more attention over others and last but not the least R15 has a well balanced Liquid cooling system.

Value For Money:

This is the Major aspect in which most Indian based Bike Manufacturers hit their Jackpots. This reminds me a famous quote “Cheat me in Price not in Quality”. Absolutely there is no compromise in Quality offered by R15 and ZMR. That doesn’t mean that Yamaha and Hero-Honda cheat in Price. They have good justification for and the overall package is well balanced.

R15 engine runs in a controlled environment with a ECU monitoring the throttle and an advanced Liquid cooling system that certainly maintains optimum engine oil temperature. Now if you still my Apache/Pulsar has over 17ps power, Disc Brakes etc etc and why should I waste over a Lakh on a R15 or a ZMR. The Answer is Reliability. I have seen R15 engines which are still the same even after 2 yrs, Same means almost similar to a stock engine. But unfortunately a Pulsar/Apache will surely lose its health after vibrating for two years.

Moreover in my opinion “Value for Money” is not measured by the Product to Price Ratio, its rather Product to Satisfaction Ratio. On a real time scenario almost every R15 owner till date will be happy about their selection while others mostly end up in Second hand market with the least resale value. Since ZMR is new to the arena we have to wait a watch for its customer satisfaction. But yes its a fact that many ZMR lovers are unhappy as they have cancelled their booking due to high wait time. Additions like Dual Front Fairing, Advanced Cooling system and Mono Shocks help the R15 have a step over ZMR in this Segment.

R15: 4.5/5
ZMR: 4/5

Verdict:

As like the size of this article there is a huge difference between these two bikes and they unite only at one point, COST. R15 costs up to 1,10,xxx on road and ZMR costs 1,03,xxx on the road. But let’s make this short and simple, if you are young, aggressive and still have a mischievous teen attitude then R15 is for you. Trust me you will never feel any discomfort. If you are rigid and responsible and want your bike to behave the same then ZMR is the ideal choice for you.

To be even precise, R15 is for Boys and ZMR is for Men.

courtesy : http://bikeadvice.in

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Yamaha R15 2011 Edition

Yamaha will launch their most powerful 150cc Bike Yamaha R15 with some cosmetic modification and some little adjustment in engine section middle of this year. The pricing will be 1.05 to 1.15 laks . There will be some modification in frame of the bike just like their one of the best selling model (In Europe market) i.e. R125. There will be little fatter rare Tyre and may be will some new colours. So Yamaha fans cheer up and lets hope for the best….

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Honda CB 1000R Review

Honda boosted their image with the introduction of Honda CB 1000R at a suitable Price in India. Honda CB 1000R is one of the most majestic bike around. It comes in alloy wheels, the front flaring, dual tail lamps and a digital dash board are the highlights. The bike comes in Grey, White, Olive and Black body colors and offers amazing pickup with great comfort. This is definitely going to attract the young audience in India. Honda CB 1000R is the bike with 998 CC 4-Stroke 16-Value DOHC inline 4 Liquid – cooled with 6 speed gear box. It has an amazing power of 123.37 hp @ 10000 rpm. It has 310 x 4.5 dual hydraulic disc with 4-piston caliper floating roto and sintered metal pads Front break and 256 x 5 dual hydraulic disc with dual-piston caliper and sintered metal pads Rear break. Overall length of this bike is 2105 mm and overall height is 1095 mm. This bike comes with 17 liters of fuel tank capacity. Honda CB 1000R has 43mm inverted HMAS cartridge-type telescopic fork with stepless preload, compression and rebound adjustment, 120mm cushion stroke front suspension and Monoshock with gas-charged HMAS damper featuring 10-step preload and stepless rebound damping adjustment, 128mm axle travel Rear suspension. This bike has Wet mui-plate with coil springs clutchand top speed of this bike is 225kmph. Honda CB 1000R Price, Technical Review, Specification and Features.

Honda CB 1000R Features and Specifications

• 43mm inverted HMAS cartridge-type telescopic fork with stepless preload
• compression and rebound adjustment
• 120mm cushion stroke Front Suspension
• Monoshock with gas-charged HMAS damper
• 10-step preload and stepless rebound damping adjustment
• 128mm axle travel Rear Suspension
• Pass-light
• PGM-Fl electronic fuel
• injection Carburettor
• Fuel Tank capacity – 17 ltrs
• Low Fuel Indicator
• Low Battery Indicator
• Wheelbase – 1445.00 mm
• Ground Clearance – 130mm
• 310 x 4.5 dual hydraulic
• Disc with 4-piston caliper floating roto
• Sintered metal pads Front Break
• 256 x 5 dual hydraulic
• Disc with dual-piston caliper
• Sintered metal pads Rear Break
• Computer-controlled digital transistorised
• Electronic advance lgnition
• Passenger Footrest

Engine Specifications

• Displacement – 998cc
• 4-Stroke 16-Value DOHC inline 4 Liquid-cooled
• Maximum Power – 123.37 hp(92 kw) @ 10000 rpm
• Maximum Torque – 100 Nm(73.8 ft.lbs) @ 8000 rpm
• Top speed – 225 kmph
• Stroke – 56.5 mm
• Bore – 75 mm
• 6 Speed Gearbox
• Wet mui-plate with coil springs Clutch

Dimensions - Length – 2250.00 mm, Width – 755.00 mm, Height – 1220.00 mm
Colors - Grey, White, Olive, Black

Honda CB 1000R Price

Honda CB 1000R Price in India

• Honda CB 1000R Price in Delhi – Rs. 10,07,874/- approx.
• Honda CB 1000R Price in Mumbai – Rs. 11,13,264/- approx.

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Honda VFR1200F Review

Honda boosted their image with the introduction of Honda VFR1200F at a suitable Price in India. Honda VFR1200F is one of the most majestic bike around. It comes with 5 spoke alloy wheels in front and 7 spoke alloy wheels in Rear, the front flaring, dual tail lamps and a digital dash board are the highlights. The bike comes in Red color with amazing pickup with great comfort. This is definitely going to attract the young audience in India. This is the bike with 1237 CC 4 stroke engine with 6 speed gear box. It offers an amazing power of 127kw/10000min (95/l/EC). It has Dual full-floating 320mm discs with CBS six-piston calipers with ABS Front break and Single 276mm disc with CBS two-piston caliper with ABS Rear break. Overall length of the bike is 2250 mm and overall height is 1220 mm. This bike comes with 18.5 liters of fuel tank capacity. Honda VFR1200F has 43 cartridge-type telescopic fork front suspension and Pro Link with gas charged damper Rear suspension. This bike has Wet mui-plate hydraulic dual clutch. Honda VFR1200F Price, Technical Review, Specification and Features.

Honda VFR1200F

Honda VFR1200F Features and Specifications

• Oil-permeated viscous-type paper fier Air cleaner
• 43 cartridge-type telescopic fork Front Suspension
• Pro Link with gas charged damper Rear Suspension
• PGM-Fl electronic fuel
• Injection Carburetor
• Fuel Tank capacity – 18.5 liter
• Wheelbase – 1545.00 mm
• Ground Clearance – 125mm
• Dual full-floating 320mm discs with CBS six-piston calipers with ABS Front Break
• Single 276mm disc with CBS two-piston caliper with ABS Rear Break
• Digital transistorized with electronic advance Ignition
• Passenger Footrest
• Pass-light

Engine Specifications

• Displacement – 1237cc
• 4-stroke UNICAM 76 V-4 Liquid-cooled
• Maximum Power – 127kw/10000min (95/l/EC)rpm
• Maximum Torque – 129Nm/8750min (95/l/EC) rpm
• Stroke – 60 mm
• Bore – 81 mm
• 6 Speed Gearbox
• Wet mui-plate hydraulic dual Clutch

Dimensions - Length – 2250.00 mm, Width – 755.00 mm, Height – 1220.00 mm
Colors - Silver, Black, Red

Honda VFR1200F Price

Honda VFR1200F Price in India –
Honda VFR1200F Price in Delhi – Rs. 17,50,000/- approx.
Honda VFR1200F Price in Mumbai – Rs. 18,67,000/- approx.

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Yamaha R-15 First Ride

A first look at the R1, and straight away you are reminded of its big brother, the iconic R1. Although the R15 has just one cylinder, the radical styling with twin head-lamps gives it a characteristic look, and it looks quite fast. The five-spoke cast-alloy wheels and the sharp looking front also give it a very belligerent appearance. However, the rear of the R15 is a little disappointing.

The R15 carries Yamaha’s trademark Deltabox frame, although this is somewhat concealed by the stylish fairing. The sporty handlebars and instrument cluster add to the charm and you notice the rear disc brake, also the yellow spring of the rear monoshock.

Climb on the bike and it really feels light, requiring that you reach out for the handlebars. The handlebar grips have excellent feel, as do the switches and other instruments. Yamahas have always had first-class build quality, and this is true on the R15 also.

Turn on the ignition, and the tachometer needle swings across the dial and back to zero, set at six o’clock. Press the starter button, and you are welcomed with a distinctive single cylinder four-stroke beat. Nothing very exciting, not at idle anyway, but more on that after a while.

The R15 comes with a six-speed gearbox, and as you put the bike in first gear and pull away it doesn’t seem overall lively. With 17bhp and 1.5kgm, low end performance isn’t as thrilling as we would have expected. But press the pedal, and the Yamaha springs up a pleseant surprise. Get past 5000rpm and the Yamaha revs easily all the way until close to 10,000rpm. This four-valve head doesn’t sound edgy even when pushed to the limit. It pulls well in higher gears, but sixth feels a bit tall and is probably only for comfortable cruising. Even around the track, coming down the start-finish straight we found fifth the gear to be in; we hit sixth and saw the big and clear digital speedo count backwards. The gears shift accurately, with no fake neutrals or mean shocks. If anything, the gearbox can become a little obstinate while shifting up without the clutch, yet if you learn to adjust the throttle to get around this, it’s a pleasure.

The R15’s top-end rush should prove difficult to explore on the street, but that’s not all. This bike’s chief plus is its handling; it really is on a whole new level when compared to anything else currently on sale in its segment. Corners can be taken at amazingly high speed on the R15 - if something it is the engine which sometimes seems inadequate, never the wonderful chassis. The R15 eggs on riders to carry more corner speed until you’re terrified. Even quick changes of direction are met with without problems, but most notable is this bike’s steadiness under braking. Yamaha admits that the R15’s suspension is tuned for Indian roads, but it is capable on the track too.

The R15 isn’t the first bike in India to have discs at both ends, but the way these work is good. The front does not grasp, and the sensation of restricted bite with growing lever pressure is superb. The R15 has a 100/80-17 rear tyre, with the front 80/90-17, and while these look weak given they did the job.

We still have to test the bike in real world conditions, so certain questions remain unanswered. Yamaha claims the bike will return 40kpl in city riding, which, if ridden slowly, seems likely. Point is, would you want to ride it like that? The riding position isn’t best for a long commute through traffic and only time will answer questions about pillion comfort.

The most important factor is its cost. At Rs 97,425 ex-showroom, all India, the Yamaha R15 is an expensive motorcycle. It fails on the bhp-per-rupee but that is not the point, it is an everyday sportsbike for all and the high price makes sense. It will compliment you if you’re a greenhorn, give you some exciting moments if you are an expert, but most importantly, it puts ‘fun’ back into Indian motorcycling, and that’s important.

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Honda CBR 250R first ride

It’s easy to mistake the faired-in CBR250R for a larger capacity motorcycle, with styling that resembles Honda’s own VFR1200F. A front fairing extends downwards to shroud its engine bay, also serving to mount the rear view mirrors. The bikes curved visor provides first-rate wind protection at high speed. Neat attention to detail is apparent in the attractive steering head, as well as clip-on handlebars. We liked the 250R’s blue backlit LCD instruments arranged in an easy to decipher layout. An analogue tachometer dominates this bay and you also get a large digital speedometer, in addition to odometer, trip-counter, clock, fuel and temperature readouts.. Switchgear is comprehensive, with smart buffed alloy levers and nice palm grips also part of the latest Honda.

The tank looks classy, feeling equally nice thanks to perfectly sculpted knee grooves. Futuristic flank panels swoop back into the bi-colour tail, split grab bar and edgy brake warning light. Even the lower sections look dandy; beginning in a sharp belly pan, leading into a stubby silencer crafted from blackened stainless steel and neatly executed rider and pillion footrests.

Honda has developed this CBR’s 249cc, 4-stroke, dual overhead camshaft engine from scratch. The liquid-cooled, single cylinder powerplant is fuel-injected using Honda’s PGM-FI system, and employs generous cutting edge technologies to maximize efficiency.

The centrifugal cast, thin-wall cylinder sits offset 4mm from the crankshaft center towards the exhaust, reducing friction between the cylinder and molybdenum coated piston. Its cylinder sleeve exterior is textured for better heat dispersion, while the combustion chamber uses pent roof architecture. There’s an iridium spark-plug for enhanced durability, and a straight port layout with twin-beam fuel injection. A wet air-filter does duty, and the new engine uses four lightweight valves, with thin (4.5mm) stems. The world’s first roller rocker arms for a DOHC engine debut on the CBR250R, with tappet clearances being shim adjusted. Honda has built a recess into the cylinder head to temporarily accommodate the rocker arms, so mechanics need not labor to remove a camshaft when changing shims.

Bearings support the crankshaft journal in another first for any single cylinder Honda, while a balancer cuts vibrations. While peak power developed will be close to 25.8bhp at 8500rpm in India, a maximum torque figure of close to 2.3kgm at 7000rpm is expected.

The engine note is pleasantly gruff, still soft. Engine revs build with a willing thrum the instant you select first, open throttle and let out the well weighted clutch. Throttle response is crisp, the CBR250R enjoying a wide, thoroughly refined powerband even novices won’t hesitate to exploit. Rpm rises in a smooth, purposeful rush through an adequate low end, to meet a meaty mid range and frantic top end rush as expected from this short stroke powerplant (bore and stroke is 76mm x 55mm). You’ve six-gears to play with in the one-down, five-up pattern, each shift accompanied by a light, precise feel at the pedal. The CBR is good for effortless 120kph cruising, with maximum speed likely in the region of 150kph.

A diamond frame, with steel pipe trusses binds the CBR250R together, with 37mm diameter telescopic front suspension, a rectangle section swingarm and Honda’s Pro-link system with 5-step preload adjustment working at the rear. The riding position feels mid way between commuter-friendly upright and sporty. The CBR250R seat offers good padding, helping make this a comfortable bike.

Handling is light, street friendly and stable through the corners; suitable for an occasional track day, but feeling most comfortable as motorcycle better suited to daily use.

Honda is offering top drawer, combined ABS front (296mm floating disc) and rear (220mm) disc brakes, as a paid option. Both calipers use advanced resin-molded pads. The combined system is calibrated to intervene and allocate brake pressure to the front and rear brakes whenever you depress the rear brake, while the front brake lever works independently as on any motorcycle. Both brakes are ABS enabled, the system modulating hydraulic pressure to prevent wheel lock in every situation.

The C-ABS system works its magic without any drama, is not intrusive and does not call for a rider to alter his braking habits. This clever system will make a pro of most novices.

The practical and city friendly CBR250R is a superbly balanced motorcycle that is going to set a benchmark in India. The 250R launches in India in April 2011, poised to provide enthusiasts a fine combination of style, adequate performance, street friendly handling as well as advanced brakes, at a decent price. The base model CBR250R retails for Rs 1.5 lakh (ex-showroom, Delhi), with the ABS variant priced higher at Rs 1.8 lakh (ex-showroom, Delhi).

A segment starting motorcycle from tomorrow, today, it’s going to be a while before we see another bike as good as Honda’s CBR250R.

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